So laying for over a year with no use and a rotted out exhaust joint and in need of a general service I got the track bike work out of he way and set to work digging the VFR out of the corner of the garage!!
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/E03F5A87-17B7-4805-92CB-0627A529289E.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/E03F5A87-17B7-4805-92CB-0627A529289E.jpg.html)
The main jobs I wanted to do: valve clearances, remove restrictor kit, replace exhaust, check and lube suspension linkages, replace fork springs and an oil change.
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Fairings off and I start to remember how hard it is to work on cos it's so tight and small. Lower rad looks well manky, so that needs a clean up at least.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/D0623771-B8AA-40AB-9BA8-23DE0711F375.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/D0623771-B8AA-40AB-9BA8-23DE0711F375.jpg.html)
To get half a chance of getting near the rear exhaust joint the right foot peg and hanger needed to come off, it's rusting nicely at the back and the front is starting to go as well, so that will need a good clean, treated and painted.
Getting to the exhaust and unbolting it was still proving difficult and it didn't want to round off any nuts, so I took the tail off!!
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That let me get to the exhaust easily. And showed up a bit of an oil leak, seems to be from the rear rocker cover seal, so it will want replacing.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/8786A4E9-CFBA-41B3-B5D8-B31A1FE9DB09.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/8786A4E9-CFBA-41B3-B5D8-B31A1FE9DB09.jpg.html)
Swing arm may as well come out now to check the numerous bearings and slap some fresh grease in there... But haven't got there yet.
Turn my attention back to the engine to get the carbs off. Plenty of little bits in the way to get them released and a screw holding the air box onto the carbs was nicely rounded by the previous owner, so it needed drilling out. But I got there... A nice banging hangover hasn't helped today, but here is the restrictor plates.
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The hoses are 22 years old and a few joints are furring up a bit, so I will stick a set of hoses on it while I have it stripped down. Has developed into a right little project. Next up, restrictor plates out, then rocker covers off and do some valve clearance checking. Best get a tea brewed and get back to it.
So what would you lot advise to do with this rad?
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/58FA3B82-F5BA-43CE-B888-4E44D8D663A5.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/58FA3B82-F5BA-43CE-B888-4E44D8D663A5.jpg.html)
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soak it for a while and then if you are careful you can use a ziptie to clean out between the fins DO NOT use anything metal and don't be tempted to pressure wash it either as you'll just bend all the fins.
Quote from: Green_Ninja on May 18, 2014, 06:32:25 PM
soak it for a while and then if you are careful you can use a ziptie to clean out between the fins DO NOT use anything metal and don't be tempted to pressure wash it either as you'll just bend all the fins.
Would jizer or such a degreaser be of any use on it? Or just leave it in some water?
I'd just try washing up liquid and let it soak if you can find something big enough to submerge it in, you need to try and soften the muck.
Quote from: Green_Ninja on May 18, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
I'd just try washing up liquid and let it soak if you can find something big enough to submerge it in, you need to try and soften the muck.
Having looked again, I think the rad in front of the fan has been leaking... Crystals in between the fins... Looks like it has been weeping!!
Quote from: 1-600-matt on May 18, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on May 18, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
I'd just try washing up liquid and let it soak if you can find something big enough to submerge it in, you need to try and soften the muck.
Having looked again, I think the rad in front of the fan has been leaking... Crystals in between the fins... Looks like it has been weeping!!
in that case new/recond rad required probably
So today in work I learn that the labs have a nice shot blaster, ultrasonic cleaner and can do nickel plating!! I think I will be taking some of the little bits and pieces that are rusting into the labs for some treatment.
The steering stem is starting to rust so I may take that all apart and shot blast it and clean it all up.
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The rocker covers are finally off.
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So I'm gonna say this is more of a restoration than just getting it through MOT!!
So valve clearances are done, 9 of them needed changing, glad I checked.
Now the swing arm is out so I can clean up many years of grime!!
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Fairly dirty...
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And part cleaned...
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So I notice the brake disc carriers are needing a tidy up!! Anyone repainted or cleaned discs up before? What's the best way to do it??
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coming along nicely mate
Quote from: 1-600-matt on May 26, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
So I notice the brake disc carriers are needing a tidy up!! Anyone repainted or cleaned discs up before? What's the best way to do it??
you could do what my dad did and simply liberally apply black spray paint to the entire disk/wheel/bike and let the brake pads do the hard work.
but he is a fucking idiot.
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on May 27, 2014, 07:40:28 AM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on May 26, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
So I notice the brake disc carriers are needing a tidy up!! Anyone repainted or cleaned discs up before? What's the best way to do it??
you could do what my dad did and simply liberally apply black spray paint to the entire disk/wheel/bike and let the brake pads do the hard work.
but he is a fucking idiot.
Thanks... I might not bother with that idea!
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on May 27, 2014, 07:40:28 AM
you could do what my dad did and simply liberally apply black spray paint to the entire disk/wheel/bike and let the brake pads do the hard work.
but he is a fucking idiot.
Hahaha. Genius!
Cos revamped my VFR400 a few years ago.
The thread must be lurking somewhere.
Could be of help to you possibly :cool:
Quote from: Kath600 on May 31, 2014, 02:55:01 PM
Cos revamped my VFR400 a few years ago.
The thread must be lurking somewhere.
Could be of help to you possibly :cool:
I remember that, will have a look for that later on.
Just getting the rear hub apart at the minute.
Hub nut removed and sprocket carrier off
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Then pulled the bearing carrier out of the hub, loads of shit and stones in there, given the swing arm a quick initial clean and looking a bit better.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/B14159A6-ECB3-4737-9994-E53F9F6C0AE9.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/B14159A6-ECB3-4737-9994-E53F9F6C0AE9.jpg.html)
Round the sprocket cleaned up and the frame in that area as well
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/4C46BB2B-D9F4-4783-A986-0642A36F72BA.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/4C46BB2B-D9F4-4783-A986-0642A36F72BA.jpg.html)
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/7518C01A-5EB6-42BA-A31A-6486425F2B94.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/7518C01A-5EB6-42BA-A31A-6486425F2B94.jpg.html)
And picked up a new lower rad from Concept Racing to replace the original which was blocked solid and leaking
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Got down the lab finally to have a play with the shot blasting cabinet. Had picked up some aerosol cans of paint as well. Slightly dodgy paint work in places, but an improvement overall I think.
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Lots more to do... But it's a start!
they came up nice!!!
:thumbright: :cool: :afro:
Few more bits tidied up with the aid of the grit blaster.
Suspension linkage is probably going ott... But the link arm was really rusty so while I was at it I did the linkage and bolts/nuts also
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Seeing as the rear wheel hub was apart I decided to slow the corrosion of the spindle and tidy up the visible areas.
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So here is tonight's bits... Suspension linkage, rear spindle, few brackets from the radiator, sprocket and disc nuts/washers, rear brake linkage and half of the fan motor housing.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/056F4CA9-7133-4D4F-A81E-9C6C11BC5180.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/056F4CA9-7133-4D4F-A81E-9C6C11BC5180.jpg.html)
So much more left to do, but I may try and ignore a few bits like the fork legs, rearsets and wheels, brake discs, callipers for a while in an attempt to get it MOT'd this year!!
its amazing how well you can recondition certain bits
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 16, 2014, 11:27:42 PM
its amazing how well you can recondition certain bits
We'll see how long it lasts. Time will tell. Will look better in the short term anyhow.
Can always do it again ;)
Good work fella.... A quality job
So after a few trips away with work I have got little time to spend on the vfr... But I got a while on Friday to do a bit more blasting and painting...
Here is the heat shield, fan motor body and rear brake bracket
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/34782D5D-0795-4928-9F7E-28A72363C62D.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/34782D5D-0795-4928-9F7E-28A72363C62D.jpg.html)
Fan and motor all back together (and working) mounted on the new rad...
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/11967722-A464-48F1-9636-A84555EE0732.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/11967722-A464-48F1-9636-A84555EE0732.jpg.html)
Suspension linkage all back together
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/CB1C91A6-C709-4088-B9B0-653AAED92C87.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/CB1C91A6-C709-4088-B9B0-653AAED92C87.jpg.html)
Swing arm mounted in the bike... Still gotta be tightened up, but want to check the after market exhaust fits before I get things all torqued up.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/84B7081B-01E2-4685-BAFC-CBDAFB2672E5.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/84B7081B-01E2-4685-BAFC-CBDAFB2672E5.jpg.html)
Chain and front sprocket... All cleaned up round the frame as well
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/8B21B063-D422-46D2-B82E-0066E4F21591.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/8B21B063-D422-46D2-B82E-0066E4F21591.jpg.html)
Other side of the swing arm...
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Nice to be putting stuff back onto the bike rather than removing parts.
Looking good chap
pics won't load for me at work :(
Will have a look when I get home :cool:
So got a bit more time yesterday to get a bit further.
Clock bracket, fairing mount etc were starting to look a bit tatty
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So took that lot off and got the three brackets blasted and primed but ran out of time to get them sprayed up with black
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Also borrowed the head stock special tool so can get that apart sometime and tidy it up.
Must restart my RVF400 NC35 project that's just bits at the moment
So I haven't been able to do much to the Honda lately what with moving house and a few other things. But I'm in my new place and am moving the contents of my garage tomorrow... Not helped by the untimely death of my van. The fact my WR is smoking and needs some investigation, the van is dead, my b1 needs a service and the car needs brake pads may delay me a bit, but the Honda project will start again.
My next issue will be the exhaust. The stock one was rotted out at the collector for the front two pipes, the rest of the system is good. So I bought a faddy daddy system off eBay, but when I had a quick go at fitting it things just didn't seem to line up. Does anyone know of a decent exhaust place in the Swindon/Chippenham area who could maybe repair the stock system?
So, finally I got onto a bit more work on the Honda.
Top yoke removed
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And the real reason to get it apart was to clean up the lower one and give the bearings some grease.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/2015-04/E11C730A-FE2E-41E2-8FB4-0CBC0ABBF019.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/2015-04/E11C730A-FE2E-41E2-8FB4-0CBC0ABBF019.jpg.html)
While I was at the lab I got the clock and headlight brackets painted up
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And also the fairing bracket
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The yokes are painted, but I'm gonna get the top one clear powder coated as it's down to bare aluminium after grit blasting it. Hope to get that done this week and hopefully get some time to clean up the headstock and then I can get the front end back together and finally put some stuff back together!
its amazing how a bit of paint can make something look brand new again
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 26, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
its amazing how a bit of paint can make something look brand new again
Grit blasting back to bare metal helps as well! ;)
Quote from: 1-600-matt on April 26, 2015, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 26, 2015, 11:18:53 AM
its amazing how a bit of paint can make something look brand new again
Grit blasting back to bare metal helps as well! ;)
it sure does
So, got a question for you lot.
Exposed the bare aluminium of the top yoke after painting it up
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But there is a bit of a raggedy edge on the paint as I didn't use a good masking tape!
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/3C96BF89-ABF7-4FE5-AB37-26F29D8A4029.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/3C96BF89-ABF7-4FE5-AB37-26F29D8A4029.jpg.html)
So do I do it again and get some proper edging masking tape stuff, or, stop titting about get it powder coated and hope no one notices (apart from me every time I see the bike!!)?
What to do?
Do it right
:withstupid:
do it nice or do it twice.
So I tidied up the rough edge and then it was time to tackle painting the little Honda logo back in.
I was struggling a bit, then thought I could try a hypodermic needle and syringe!
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/7C696435-8B60-4723-8797-46F4AA0328BD.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/7C696435-8B60-4723-8797-46F4AA0328BD.jpg.html)
It was a bit of a disaster, paint just came out in a bead and would bleed out over the face of the aluminium. So I cleaned it up, again!
Turns out one of the guys in work is well into model craft and has done lots of very high standard detailed paint work. So he offered to paint it for me. I am going red instead of the stock black.
Well, lower yoke all finished with a bit of clear coat over the matte black. And the top yoke ready for what I had planned to be a clear powder coat
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/BFC9D93E-BEB2-4D1A-952C-3C22370924F2.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/BFC9D93E-BEB2-4D1A-952C-3C22370924F2.jpg.html)
So I bring the top yoke to the powder coasters to be told they can't coat over the black paint as the paint would blister during baking the powder coat. Balls. That has balls'd that plan.
Here is the logo painted up. He added a lacquer to help stop the black bleeding out onto the surface. What's the thoughts on how it looks. The mrs likes it, I'm not 100% convinced. But it would be tricky to remove it without wrecking the logo.
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/3C161BD2-4EA0-4976-B299-AFFAB1AA9119.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/3C161BD2-4EA0-4976-B299-AFFAB1AA9119.jpg.html)
So now I have an option. Grit blast the black off it... Again... And get it powder coated black in the same manner as the current paint job, then powder coat clear over it, or, buy a tin of clear coat which can be applied direct to bare aluminium. Powder coat would work out cheaper than the clear coat. But I would have clear left over to maybe use on other parts like footpeg carriers, Gear lever etc. what's the thoughts?
i think the logo looks great! :cool: better than i could have done
Likwise. Smart!
Quote from: komp on May 20, 2015, 11:18:39 AM
i think the logo looks great! :cool: better than i could have done
Better than I could of done as well!!
Put the steering stem back together. I'm liking the look of this... Ignoring the jumble of cables and levers!!
(http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo92/1-600-matt/8871E7D7-40A4-475A-A7AD-722DDA12B9E8.jpg) (http://s365.photobucket.com/user/1-600-matt/media/8871E7D7-40A4-475A-A7AD-722DDA12B9E8.jpg.html)
So I have finally got back to the vfr!!
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This was a pretty shit job by the powder coaters, they didn't charge me and it will do for a while until I get it back up and running and I will sort it sometime!
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Brakes stripped and seals replaced. Did the mc as well and fitted brembo pads.
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Honda doing it right with an o-ring on the bleed nipple!
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Current job is the carbs. Need a set of jets and needles as I have a tyga exhaust system on order for it!! I only ever rode it while it was restricted as it was originally my mrs bike. So when I get roughly 60-65hp from it (fingers crossed) it's gonna be a right laugh.
absolutely drooling over this - VFR400 was my childhood dream bike. Lovely to see you doing it up so nicely.
One down... 3 to go
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Bit of progress.
Forks in and top yoke on, just refitted the clocks.
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Looking good.
Bit more progress on the carbs. They are fiddly things to get bolted back together, it's like carburettor Tetris getting everything in place.
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What I had hoped would be a flurry of easy, shiny, tyga exhaust fitting is turning into a right pain in the arse hole.
One of the rear pipes doesn't line up very nicely, when it's forced into the collector it then drags the pipe down and the swing arm fouls the pipe. Pish it up and then clearance at the other side of the swing arm disappears, pull it back and then it would hit the spring on the shock, clear the spring and underside of the swing arm and the top of the swing arm hits the pipe. Tyga customer service is proving quite difficult.
This will be about 5 weeks I have been emailing back and forth getting nowhere. Fucked right off.
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Where did you get the Tyga from?
I seem to remember one of their importers being less than helpful....
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 26, 2016, 01:31:56 PM
Where did you get the Tyga from?
I seem to remember one of their importers being less than helpful....
Jap4performance think he is the only uk importer
my tyga pipes didn't fit either.. seems par for the course :( I took them down my local machine shop and got them to bend them a bit for me as gave up trying to get the issue resolved..
Quote from: m6rk on May 26, 2016, 06:34:29 PM
my tyga pipes didn't fit either.. seems par for the course :( I took them down my local machine shop and got them to bend them a bit for me as gave up trying to get the issue resolved..
I may try to return them and explore another option. It's fucking bullshit to have to rework something like that.
No resolution to the exhaust issue as yet. So I moved on to start doing a few other things while I try to get the exhaust sorted. Decided to loose fit the new rad hoses and make sure the new lower rad and exhaust don't foul. All looks good.
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Quickly ran into more problems with one of the samco hoses being too short. Needs about 15mm more to get it far enough into the connections. Hopefully will get that resolved fairly easily.
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looking good..
return the tygas and get mark hill from mhp to make something for you..
Quote from: m6rk on June 21, 2016, 05:18:30 PM
looking good..
return the tygas and get mark hill from mhp to make something for you..
I was in touch with mark. I'm waiting to hear back from him.
So progress slowed somewhat by the birth of my first little one. Little garage time... I did get a while over a couple of weekends.
Exhaust I decided to modify it!! We have an SEM (scanning electron microscope) in work so on of the metallurgists could tell me that the tubing is 304 stainless. I bought some straight 304ss pipe from eBay. It's as close on dimension as I could get but is 1.2mm wall where the tyga stuff is 1mm, so the bore is 0.4mm smaller diameter, but that won't make any difference to flow as I am only inserting a small spacer to get the clearance away from the swing arm.
With only mig welding capability at home I cut the tyga pipe, rotated the front section a few degrees, put in a small spacer and tac'd it in place.
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It's goin to our workshops next week to be tig welded.
The samco hose has been replaced with a new one. Just need to get some more time in the garage!
Excellent.
Looking good
Fancy!
A little step forward!
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Welded up and it's spot on fit wise in the bike, now there is no contact between the pipe and the swing arm. Weld isn't to the visual standard of the machine tig, but it won't be too visible in there
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Progress not helped by an unwanted van MOT prep which is turning into a project itself!!!!
Looks quite good
Winter is on the way again and another year will pass before the vfr will get back to the road! But I am getting a bit of time on it again.
On to the rear end... it just looks tatty and has a lot of grit and grime on the plastics and bit of corrosion in places
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Decided the best plan would be to part the plastics and frame to repaint the frame and give the plastics a good clean.
Considering repainting the sub-frame in black rather than the stock silver. The frame is hidden from view mostly when the bike has the fairings fitted. It's visible when the seat is removed etc. What's the consensus... black or silver?
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Started taking the electrics off the plastics today so I can clean them up. I'm no auto-electrician... but I am fairly sure I will be able to wire the indicators up im a more professional manner!! This is how all 4 wires were joined!!
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It's surprising how many bikes I've bought that are wired the same , people can't be bothered to crimp anymore
Cleaned up well, keep it matched to the frame, but if it's not that visible I'd choose the option that would wear the best.
Enjoyed reading this. It's looking really good so far! Well done! :cool:
All the little brackety shit that holds the rear brake line, battery strap and the plastics to the frame... corroding and looking nasty
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Given the grit blast treatment
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Agreed that stock silver was probably the best plan, so subframe primered and painted silver and all the little brackets primered. The plastics have been relieved of the heavy grime but need a final clean with some soapy water to remove some residue from the part cleaner fluid.
Fingers crossed I can get some time at the weekend. Feels like I'm close to being able to stick the carbs on and get it fired up!!
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Bit more time on the Honda. With the rear off the bike the back brakes are due a service, so thought I would get on with that.
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Turns out the fact the brakes were off the bike posed a problem. One of the pistons was well seized and unable to put any significant pressure through the brake line with the master cylinder off the bike I couldn't get the pistons out. The usual method for me is to put the air line on it. But it was putting up a fight. I had a good plan, cut an old brake line from the Suzuki so I had an easy way to get a good pressure in the calliper. One of them was moving but the other was not going anywhere.
So I filled it with fluid, capped it off with a banjo and stack of old crush washer, then compressed the free piston with a g-clamp and forced the seized one out.
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They were a right mess. Dust seal particularly knackered.
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Cleaning up fairly well. Just need some new seals and see if the pistons can be cleaned up enough to be reused before I get it back together.
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Brakes are all rebuilt. Just need to be fitted and bled.
Tail going back together.
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Exhaust had one more surprise for me, once I had the electrics back on the tail the hanger fouled one of the modules. So I had to trim the corner off it. It needs to come back off to paint up the exposed metal.
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Found some little brass brushes for my dremel. Made a great job cleaning the battery earth connections.
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Want to get it running again. Then I can move it aside for a while so I can do some winter maintenance on the Kawasaki.
Last job before I could get it running was to tidy up the upper rad. It was just flaking paint on the tanks.
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I didn't want to grit blast it, so was just wire brushed with the dremel and painted.
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So this isn't exactly the first time it was running, it was already started a few minutes before. On first putting fuel to it one of the floats got stuck and it pissed a load of fuel down between the two cylinder banks. But it resolved itself and I started it up. It started really easily which was nice.
https://youtu.be/CuC5lOdSk-I (https://youtu.be/CuC5lOdSk-I)
Carried on and got the carbs balanced. I wanted to get to at least this stage cos the Kawasaki needs some work.
:moto: looks and sounds lovely :thumbright:
Superb Matt.
I'm surprised the Tyga stuff fits as badly as it does.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 28, 2016, 11:36:29 AM
I'm surprised the Tyga stuff fits as badly as it does.
So was I... I expected it to be a couple of hours of shiny stainless joy. Instead it delayed me a good couple of months while I tried repeatedly to get it to fit and it was a right pain in the ass. Their customer support sucks and from looking at the few example pictures they sent me I am pretty confident that it is a type fault with the system and not a one off. It's still not perfect... the two cans are at slightly different angles... which will be a continual annoyance but I decided it was going to have to be good enough!
Ahh yes. I remember now. The Tyga system I bought for the RGV was excellent. The service from the importer (Jap4performance iirc) was utter dogshit.
absolutely loving this thread, can't wait to see it finished!
So with the KTM serviced and ready for fun at the weekend and the Kawasaki only needing a wash and maybe a clean air filter I turned attention back to the Honda. The fuel tank next. I had trouble running the bike, in fact it wouldn't start, before I started this little project. I had thought maybe the fuel stop valve had gummed up or something but it seems the little vacuum hose that releases the fuel had perished and was split. When I applied a little vacuum on the bench with some new hose the fuel flowed freely. So no need to fiddle with that end of the tank too much.
The paint is a bit scratched and could do with a good polish and the filler cap is a bit scratched
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So I had hoped a good bit of elbow grease would bring a bit of a shine back to it. It also had a shitty Carbon tank protector which was broken on it and I think it may be nicer without it.
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I was wrong
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Quite a sizeable dent was lurking below. I decided the fuel within the tank being over 3 years old I would be best draining the tank. So drained what I could via the valve then removed the valve to get the dregs out... it may also let me get inside and try to pop the dent out a bit.
I can confirm that although the fuel is a pretty ropey yellow colour it has not formed any solids in any way... but I'd rather not burn it in the bike given I can avoid it.
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I think the Americans call it a petcock... but I don't really want a pet cock... so I'll call it the fuel tank valve!! Anyhow i wanted to get all the old fuel out so I removed it. The main o-ring was shagged and the outside of the valve was pretty dirty, so i got some new o-rings off eBay of a suitable size and took the rest to the ultrasonic cleaner. It came up nice.
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Had a go at the tank today, just to see how it cleaned up. Had soaked some wd40 on the sticky pads for the tank protector, so they peeled off ok. Then degreaser the tank, gave it a wash, clay bar, quick go over with some t-cut/scratch remover, polish and wax. It's not too bad, but to get it tip top it would need sanded and a new clear coat on it. Worst area is under the tank protector where it's dented and the carbon fibre has rubbed the paint and scratched it.
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So the way I see it I have 3 options:
1: leave it as is (the fairings are rough also) and i just accept it's nearly 25 years old and is showing it's age
2: buy a new tank protector to cover the majority of the damage
3: leave it to a paint shop and get the dent pulled out and new clear coat so it's looking pretty mint
What to do!?
Option 3 for me.
Tank is not plastics so worth getting perfect. Shouldn't be too expensive?
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on February 19, 2017, 08:08:02 AM
Option 3 for me.
Tank is not plastics so worth getting perfect. Shouldn't be too expensive?
You're right I think. It shouldn't be vastly expensive and would hopefully tidy up quite easily.
But with spring around the corner I really wanna get the little thing back on the road and get to ride it. The tank will join a list of cosmetic jobs for the future. Brake disc rotors, wheels, fork legs and fairings. So the tank will go on with a few rough edges for now.
The fuel filler cap was all scratched up.
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So gave it a light sand down and a lick of rattle can action, then shined up the bolt heads. Not a great finish, but better than it was
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It's not bad from a distance
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The next job is to put the rear brake line on. The brake line runs down the swing arm above the chain to the calliper which is under slung. So the hose passes near the rear sprocket and chain as it loops round the end of the swing arm. There is a little guide loop to stop the hose touching the sprocket. It must have been fatigued in the past as it snapped when the bike was coming apart.
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So the plan is to clean it up and see if I can get it welded back together.
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So it's cleaned up, next job is weld it up and give it a dust of paint.
A touch more progress. Got the little brake line loop fixed up.
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Whipped the cans off as I had to touch up the hanger anyhow after trimming it and allowed access to get the brake line fitted. Also took the chance to torque up the hub nut while I was there.
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With the brakes bled (they didn't give up easy) and the hub done up, there isn't too much to do at the back end. Expansion bottle to fit and the cooling system to drain of water and fill with antifreeze.
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Although gettin the right rearset in place highlighted a new problem. Again related to the exhaust!
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The heat guard and exhaust are in a fight for space. So I shall pull the rearset off to a lose fit, final fit the exhaust silencers and then trim the heat shield to allow clearance. Then touch up the paint and get the rearsets on. Will probably take the chance to clean up the footpeg and hanger a bit!
Starting to think about plastics
The wire panel is pretty shitty
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I have no idea what colour it was originally, doesnt seem to be any paint left on it! I'm thinking paint it black!? What do you think? Black or silver?
Paint it black (in a Call of duty stylee)...
That wire mesh was a bitch to get cleaned up, but it turned out ok
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Airbox was filthy, just needed a clean up... mostly
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Only small issue was the little drain line which comes off the side of the top cover to drain away spilled fuel or rain water from under the fuel filler cap
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Good clean up this afternoon
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Then used a brass push fit connector to bodge a repair on the drain, chemical metal to hold it in place
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That left me in a place where I could fit the airbox and tank and give it a small run to circulate the antifreeeze after finally fitting the expansion bottle and getting the heat shield and exhaust finally fitted. I didn't get it hot as I wanted to let it cool and check the water level was ok before letting it get hot. Not 100% convinced the water temp sensor is working properly, but we'll see! Also the replacement tank breather pipe is too big an OD to fit through the right routing so I need some different pipe to replace the old hardened original stuff. Also the rear tank rubber mount has hardened and broken into 3 bits and one of the three seems to have gone walkies in the past couple of years... so have one of those ordered from fleabay. Also it didn't run very clean initially, I think something in one of the carbs isn't quite spot on, I hope it just needs a bit of a healthy twist of throttle to clear its throat!! Really don't want to take those carbs off any time soon!! Fingers crossed
But it's starting to look more like a bike which might make it onto the road for summer.
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Started on the first of the plastics, it looks better in this picture than it does in the flesh, but it's definitely improved. Just need half a day to try and make the best of the plastics. It's time to figure out what tyres to fit as well! Unfortunately can't fit them myself, well can fit them but can only balance the front as I don't have a taper sized to mount the rear wheel in the balancer
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Think if I got a good weekend free from the Mrs and little one I could have it ready for MOT. But spread over an hour or two here and there it will be a couple of weeks.
Needs the wheels cleaned and the 10 year old tyres replacing!! Suspension setting, MOT and tax and it's ready for a few miles this summer.
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Love it. Great twin pipes too. Very Muzzy 750.
Looks great! Good work!
Took long enough!!!!
Nice and shiny work
Noice very noice
Not a perfect run today. Was taking it to work this morning so I could go to get it MOTd at lunchtime. Seemed to run lovely on the way into work, but the little stretch at lunchtime across the m4 showed a bit of a fuelling issue... well I think it's fuelling. Between about 4.5k-8k rpm it doesn't pick up cleanly, it will stutter briefly or pop before it starts to rev. Seems to rev out cleanly and pick up fine from 9k up to the red line, but that middle band isn't great. Sounds to be running on all 4 pots ok and I have obviously done a lot of work to it so there could be a few lose ends in there but it's restricted to a small band of revs so I'm thinking it's carb setup.
Any other suggestions?
sounds like it might be over fuelling in the mid range as you switch onto the main jets..
If your sure that the carbs are sound, ie no air leaks perished diaphragms etc, then they probably just need balancing and the fuelling set correctly by someone who knows what they are doing and with tiny tiny hands.. lol..
looks good though.. well worth the effort..
Quote from: Farmer Giles on May 04, 2017, 10:38:28 PM
sounds like it might be over fuelling in the mid range as you switch onto the main jets..
If your sure that the carbs are sound, ie no air leaks perished diaphragms etc, then they probably just need balancing and the fuelling set correctly by someone who knows what they are doing and with tiny tiny hands.. lol..
looks good though.. well worth the effort..
Cheers dude.
I have had the carbs back out to check everything was in the right place, nothing was amiss. All I found was a small fuel leak so resolved that, was worth having the carbs off for that alone really. So have re-balanced them and got them fitted again. I was pretty sure I didn't have any air leaks as it ticks over nicely and picks up cleanly from low down. Just need a couple of hours to get it back together and take it for a spin. If it's still doing it then a run on a dyno will be needed to see what's going on.
So had a dyno run at JHS to see how fuelling looked... rich, quite rich. It's against speed rather than revs as there was some noisy signals picked up. But the big dip at 40-60mph seems to be the reason why it's not picking up cleanly.
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So have got fairings off, carbs out and dropped the needles by removing the 0.5mm shim from under them and dropped down a jet size on the front and two sizes down on the rear. Hope to get out for a spin soon to see if it's helped then another dyno run to verify fuelling is not too lean.
Bit of a tight spot deleloped in the chain so treated it to a new set of sprockets and chain.
It has actually been used this year... twice... and if it's sunny on bank hol weekend gonna go up to silverstone for MotoGP
Got another dyno run a while back. Carb changes pretty much did the trick. Different dyno so can't really be sure on actual change to power output, but it has got rid of the hesitation and feels like it pulls better, so faily sure there is an actual increase overall.
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